Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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  • Russell Winters
    Russell Winters 16 саат мурун

    Remember Athlon XP Barton cores? Pepperidge farm remembers.

  • 1 WithTheDark
    1 WithTheDark 16 саат мурун

    What about a mid ranged 1200-1500 dollar pc builds between intel and amd? wonder if it would stay around the same or will one come out on top?

  • Dirk Snyder
    Dirk Snyder 17 саат мурун

    I would have liked to see how those systems differed in productivity workloads. I supect the AMD system would have blown the Intel system away in applications like video editing, simply because of the higher thread count.

  • SORAW441
    SORAW441 18 саат мурун

    Nah, not really. Using Ryzen 2600X and a 1080Ti Mini no problem with a Gigabyte b450i, SP 512GB SsD, 16gigs of 3200 c14 DDR4 and Windows 10 LTSC 1809. I hate elitists who constantly act like having the absolute best is the only thing or GTFO. It’s not 1999 anymore. I agree AMD GPUs are buggy but I’m not complaining about FPS or latency on my CPU. Mistrust over buggy releases is hard to wipe off but I’m pretty sure AMD rocks now.

  • David Wesson
    David Wesson 18 саат мурун

    I really enjoyed this video! I would love to see another future video with an even lower budget, say $500, that may or may not be overclockable / for premium gaming purposes.

  • Jokery
    Jokery 18 саат мурун

    only reason intel better performs because focused on single core performance which most games use but when multicore AI in games will be a thing will be mind blowing and intel will die

  • john paul de paz
    john paul de paz 18 саат мурун

    i know linus is a very reliable..

  • john paul de paz
    john paul de paz 19 саат мурун

    what about the power consumption in idle mode or vice on its very peak demand

  • IQ DESTRUCTOR
    IQ DESTRUCTOR 19 саат мурун

    IM UPSET - miles teller, probably

  • EliteMetrics Playz
    EliteMetrics Playz 19 саат мурун

    Can you do rtx vs gtx

  • Israel Lewis
    Israel Lewis 19 саат мурун

    Nice to see Linus using an HP Envy ;)

  • Matt D.
    Matt D. 21 саат мурун

    I'm about to build a rig with a $2000 budget, so it would great to see how Linus and Anthony would do it. I'm new to PC building and driving myself crazy trying to figure out value vs performance....

  • Arkhein
    Arkhein 21 саат мурун

    You forgot to mention upgrading. You can keep your b AMD mobo up to 2020 (if I'm not mistaken) and use their entire mainstream CPU lineup. Intel on the other hand makes you switch your mobo for the high end ones to be able to enjoy more performance from an OCed CPU.

  • Saricon
    Saricon 22 саат мурун

    As cool as the other stuff u uploaded recently is, i am always so interested in these kind of videos, cause they actually help me deciding what to buy and probide information i can really use instead of just entertainment.

  • mohamed tawfik
    mohamed tawfik 23 саат мурун

    here is the better 750$ deal
    pcpartpicker.com/list/8NNFD2

  • Spfere
    Spfere 23 саат мурун

    Yes please, more of this, it is actually very useful for more than the rich kids that got daddys wallet to play around with.

  • Pixel SkuII
    Pixel SkuII 23 саат мурун

    Yeah but I have AirPods so

  • Random PC Test
    Random PC Test 23 саат мурун

    i5 7500, 16gb ddr4, 1060 6gb best cheap pc lol i5 and mobo for like 200 usd in a bundle NEW

  • mike szwagierczak
    mike szwagierczak Күн мурун

    try and do a budget gaming build for 500$ canadian. looking into doing a budget build myself but dont know what to do

  • Viktor Kenesei
    Viktor Kenesei Күн мурун

    And
    what is the vulnerability of the intel?

  • marceelino
    marceelino Күн мурун

    what was the OC?

  • John Locke
    John Locke Күн мурун

    How is that guy so fucking fat AND ugly

  • Tobias Carlsson
    Tobias Carlsson Күн мурун

    I'm rich, with AMD I'm even richer.

  • ReloadFast
    ReloadFast Күн мурун

    oh yes, bring them on!. It would also be interested to see a build guide that´s not from scratch, what parts would you change them. What parts would you carry over and what would you change, even if it's still relevant technology.

  • Swapnil Sinha
    Swapnil Sinha Күн мурун

    A 300$ build would be great..

  • Tim Owen
    Tim Owen Күн мурун +1

    "I probably should have gone for dual channel" Oh Linus, Linus, Linus.

  • Austin Swails
    Austin Swails Күн мурун

    hello i came here looking for the "Is AMD For Poor People?" video, can't seem to find it.

  • ImaITman
    ImaITman Күн мурун +1

    Please do more of these at different price points. This was a GREAT video

  • TheWhataman00
    TheWhataman00 Күн мурун

    And THIS IS WHY we watch LTT.

  • mattig89ch
    mattig89ch Күн мурун

    I would be interested in seeing more price point comparisons, or different video card manufacturers.

  • Xan the Dragon
    Xan the Dragon Күн мурун

    Man he went with an i3 lol

  • Aaron Slippery
    Aaron Slippery Күн мурун

    petition to add Linus to list of approved list of tech youtubers
    ayy m88 evga intel nvidia m89 lol

  • ACE
    ACE Күн мурун

    so Intel is to AMD as Walmart is to Target?

  • Fichte NullDrei
    Fichte NullDrei Күн мурун

    How did u not tested how much power they used?

  • The Curious Noob
    The Curious Noob Күн мурун

    Linus sounds so calm in this video.

  • Samo Gledam
    Samo Gledam Күн мурун

    AyyMD

  • Shawn Martel
    Shawn Martel Күн мурун

    As much as they both seem to be great options for different reasons. I can't get down with any company making people pay a premium on brand name alone.

  • vitthal chepte
    vitthal chepte Күн мурун

    Watch 3$ watch from amazon unboxing kgclip.com/video/ff5ZTws47Vw/video.html

  • Fred T. McCoy Jr.
    Fred T. McCoy Jr. Күн мурун

    what if you did a new build versus a top of the line build from last year/generation? like new stuff versus best stuff from 2 years ago?

  • Tim Ronchi
    Tim Ronchi Күн мурун

    Do the same thing at $1200

  • maevian
    maevian Күн мурун +2

    Intel prices are pretty reasonable in the US,
    The difference in price between intel and AMD is way bigger in europe

  • akaGiant
    akaGiant Күн мурун

    I feel attacked

  • duddits 5k
    duddits 5k Күн мурун

    power consumption?!!?

  • Marc Gaits
    Marc Gaits Күн мурун

    I have been using Intel for many years, but after numerous reviews and reports. I will never go back to Intel. AMD all the way, thank you Linus.

  • Daniel Bondas
    Daniel Bondas Күн мурун

    I was looking a lot for a computer setup for working that it's around $2600 that works well as a Hackintosh but i didn't found a good one, can you guys make one?

  • NightMare Dark Angel
    NightMare Dark Angel Күн мурун

    I see the title was changed 🤔

  • foreign's gaming tech
    foreign's gaming tech Күн мурун +1

    Remember when CPUs were as boring as GPUs right now, before Ryzen came out? Yeah, me too. Ryzen is great and I would have done the builds differently, but this video concept is really cool.

  • EweToobUsername
    EweToobUsername Күн мурун

    Moral of the story - if you don't really give a damn about overclocking, get an Intel non-K chip and a B series board.

  • Tim Clark
    Tim Clark Күн мурун

    I'm disabled and bought my i7-3770S for around $80 used for the first PC I ever built and it's still going strong, 1 month away from 3 years later. Of course I upgraded the GPU I started off with from a GTX 760 SC 2 GB VRAM to a GTX SSC(Super Super Clocked?) 970 4 GB VRAM but again, I bought the GPUs used. You can save a pretty penny going used and there is little to no difference

  • Ford Entertainment Group FEG
    Ford Entertainment Group FEG Күн мурун

    Linus...a 8400 is not more powerful than a 8350k in gaming.

  • Junker Zn
    Junker Zn Күн мурун

    Me either. Those numbers came out a lot closer to each other than I thought they would at the start.
    I suspect, though, that Intel really pulls in its margins at the higher-end where they can ignore power consumption and they have an absolute performance advantage by leaning on superior clockability. So we have the 9900K @ $530 against the 2700X @ $290, which is a whopping $240 difference sans cooler. If we just assume that we'll buy an AIO for both, the difference is the same. The Intel chip has a significant performance advantage, but you wind up paying through the nose for the extra cpu cycles.
    The question is... is that extra performance worth it? I would argue for most people the answer is no. For ultra-high-end gamers, sure. But for the other 99% of computer buyers (even the other 95% of gamers)... no. Not worth it. On the Intel side the costs keep piling up in order to squeeze out the last bit of performance from that CPU, whereas on the AMD side you can just stick with the stock cooler and the somewhat lower performance, but widen the price difference by another $40 (at least, keeping the AIO for the Intel), for a difference of $280 in total. That $280 buys a lot of quality-of-life for someone on a budget. absolute performance isn't everything. I think the fact that ram and SSD prices have fallen is putting a larger bulls-eye on Intel's pricing. It doesn't seem to phase Intel, but I'll bet the Zen 2 stuff coming out later this year will.
    Particularly now with ram prices having halved vs last year, and SSD prices also having dropped significantly, what can $280 buy?
    $100 - An extra 16GB of ram (on top of what you already have)
    $85 - A 2TB Crucial SSD (SATA) (which is $135, but also subtract $50 for the 1TB HDD being removed)
    $95 - With $95 remaining... that is definitely enough to also upgrade the GPU in the system, or perhaps a better monitor. Same calculation... incremental price difference by buying a better component.
    Now, the AMD system on air will be, what, around 20% slower than the Intel system on an AIO? Even so, these are still two high-end systems. A 2700X is no slouch, and the QOL improvements buys a lot of smiles. A better GPU will close the gap. More ram... if you have a use for it, will improve quality of life (else spend the money on something else). Having a SSD instead of a HDD will *definitely* improve quality of life.
    A person on an unlimited budget won't care. Most people don't have infinite amounts of cash to drop on their rigs, though.
    -Matt

  • Zachary Schumann
    Zachary Schumann Күн мурун +2

    I'm rocking a Ryzen 3 2200g and 1050ti. Totally fine.

  • Vipor26
    Vipor26 Күн мурун

    I really really like Anthony. He and Linus have good on screen dynamics.

  • Ethan Martin
    Ethan Martin Күн мурун

    Corsair vs. EVGA power supplies next haha.

  • PjStarTV
    PjStarTV Күн мурун

    If you're going with a non-overclock chip, the i5-9400F is $15 cheaper than the i5-8400. It's only $15 but there's really no reason to NOT go with the 9400F if you're going to use a dedicated GPU.

  • Anowara Begum
    Anowara Begum Күн мурун

    What a set!

  • sergio scanzani
    sergio scanzani Күн мурун

    i would like AMD PURE vs INTEL PURE... (include GPU AMD )

  • bubbyj
    bubbyj Күн мурун

    Real budget build would have been an RX590 and save 150 on the AMD build. Benchmarks are not a great way to measure real world performance. For 1080p gaming, use the 590 and you could have a case and nice mouse or keyboard for the same price you guys worked with.

  • Zsavage1
    Zsavage1 Күн мурун

    LMAO the RX580 or 590 will kick the shit out of the 1060... hahah and it's CHEAPER!! only around 200.00 for the RX580 and it's 8gb ... both you guys suck and budget built..

  • Wheel Trouble
    Wheel Trouble Күн мурун

    Something AMD people have known for years. Gaming benchmarks will always favor intel, as game devs focus on troubleshooting for those systems. AMD is bang for buck.

  • Happy Potato
    Happy Potato Күн мурун

    "Who could dislike the video?"

    1.6k people... so far....

  • daniel najera
    daniel najera Күн мурун

    Could u guys do a 3d rendering test rig

  • imfastasfrickboi
    imfastasfrickboi Күн мурун

    here before they changed the title to why is amd the budget option and when it was is amd for poor people

  • Istarion
    Istarion Күн мурун

    >Gigabyte b450
    >good vrm
    oh dear...

  • Honk von Brämstedt
    Honk von Brämstedt Күн мурун

    I'd like to see the most affordable non-blocking three screen office computer, ideally fanless 😎

  • cpear760
    cpear760 Күн мурун

    In a video about budget gaming, sitting in office chairs that easily cost over $400.

  • Taluvian
    Taluvian Күн мурун

    I feel not using dual channel hurt intel build a bit.

  • St8kout
    St8kout Күн мурун

    Let me say up front this is not about fat-shaming, but seriously, Anthony, buddy, you really need to take action with your weight before it's too late. When you're young you think you're invincible, going to live forever. But the reality is you are heading for some major health issues in the coming years.
    We really don't want to see a Linus Tech Tip episode where Linus shows how to build an emergency defibrillator from a computer power supply, in memorial to the passing of his friend that he might have saved if he had one.

  • gary maya
    gary maya Күн мурун +1

    so if you spend those $40 bucks on shipping, the intel machine is faster, because it's there the next day???

  • Ray Majka
    Ray Majka Күн мурун

    You're right; that's absolutely correct.

  • Kenneth Hicks
    Kenneth Hicks Күн мурун

    Good real world stuff. Son;t forget about time...numbers change.

  • Maddy Carbuncle
    Maddy Carbuncle Күн мурун

    Content suggestion - performance scaling/throttling of GPUs from low/mid to high-end CPUs. I was shocked by how important this is when researching a low-end build and finding out a GTX 1030 was the most that would be used by my otherwise old machine. (You sort-of covered this in $69 gaming rig, but also expand this to an actual range of CPUs from low-mid to high, versus a small number of GPU targets such as 1050ti, 2060, 2080 - at what CPU level does each card actually show a benefit?)

  • Maddy Carbuncle
    Maddy Carbuncle Күн мурун

    I have to say. Your content rocks but I have to agree with others about the graphs not making sense. In the Intel vs AMD graphs e.x. my attention was focused on the blue vs yellow bars, but they were only about the minimum percentile, whereas contrast SHOULD have been used to highlight the difference between AMD and Intel instead. I'm not being sarcastic- serious suggestion- maybe there is a visualisation course on Skillshare or something that can help. The intent is great, the data collection is great, but the visual presentation of graphs is where it falls down. Love your work. Hopefully this is a helpful suggestion.

  • John McCrery
    John McCrery Күн мурун

    i understand your what your doing but while you were picking your parts you went with stock air coolers and not liquid cooled so your test might be off

  • Masta6801
    Masta6801 Күн мурун

    Wait for Ryzen 3000 Intel we be in a rough spot. If it true 16 core 32 threads for round $550 on 7nm. Intel is struggling with 10nm. If that was an Intel CPU you can bet it would be over 1k.

  • Stefan50326
    Stefan50326 Күн мурун

    That was fun. Do it again

  • Mercurio
    Mercurio Күн мурун

    You Could have Gone with a Vega 56 in the AMD build and just stomped Intel.

  • Mercurio
    Mercurio Күн мурун

    big nerd vs skinny nerd.

  • Akalion
    Akalion 2 күн мурун

    Why would you do a build without taxes? Like everyone's gonna pay the taxes so what's the point.

    • None of your business
      None of your business Күн мурун

      Different tax rates in the states I guess. Dunno how it's in Canada though.

  • PureNupe1
    PureNupe1 2 күн мурун

    I'd much rather see this type of content done for productivity/ creative software such as Adobe photoshop , lightroom, Autodesk, solidworks, or proE...what system build provides fastest rendering and responsiveness

  • DeathsHands
    DeathsHands 2 күн мурун

    Definitely more videos like this at different price points. intel will probably lose at lower price points but it would be cool to see the differences.

  • Psyborg
    Psyborg 2 күн мурун

    I believe the perspective on 0:34 to 0:40 is a bit stretched. Poor Anthony...

  • Riptide the dragoon
    Riptide the dragoon 2 күн мурун

    Is it true that 4 ghz for amd is different than 4 ghz from Intel.

  • Boo Hoo
    Boo Hoo 2 күн мурун

    5:28 - Did I just here... "zee" series board? C'mon Linus, you're Canadian. Say a "zed" series board... :P

  • Bladewing
    Bladewing 2 күн мурун

    Linus could have used his remaining budget to slot in a basic boot+a game or two SSD to get a competitive edge. Then the systems would have had their own ups and downs in different areas of performance.

    Also, hold up, the PCPartPicker builds used the stock coolers but you used AIO's to cool during testing? Or was that just stock footage at 6:33?

  • Francois Weber
    Francois Weber 2 күн мурун

    All that it means is ... well whenZen 2 comes along its kinda game over intel. For a while at least.

  • Rohan Jha
    Rohan Jha 2 күн мурун

    Excellent analysis! Definitely would love to see more of such comparisons! What's the difference like in the higher tiers?

  • Renis
    Renis 2 күн мурун

    Intel costs alot more in my country

  • Atharva Muley
    Atharva Muley 2 күн мурун

    YES PLZ, AT A PRICE 1500$

  • GaminGRedbladE
    GaminGRedbladE 2 күн мурун

    AMD is like a rebel

  • Midnight
    Midnight 2 күн мурун

    To me all this proved was that amd is now competing with intel/nvidia at the same level. Weather it was because intel had to finally get off the high horse and offer better pricing or amd just caught up to intel/nvidia in performance. This is a good thing and I don't want intel to be ruling the market again like it used too. Competition is a great thing to have for the consumers as well as the companies.

  • Harz.exe
    Harz.exe 2 күн мурун

    Guys! I think I have super powers! I can hear their thoughts :)))

  • ThatGTAThing
    ThatGTAThing 2 күн мурун

    When controversial title is your middle name.

  • Godis Mytower
    Godis Mytower 2 күн мурун

    AMD CPU RYZEN 5 2600 WITH WRAITH STEALTH COOLER - Tom Clancy’s The Division® 2 Free Game Bundle $164.99, Intel Core i5-8400 $199.99 The 2600 when OC is on average 7% faster. Not for poor peeps just for smart ones.

  • tenryuta
    tenryuta 2 күн мурун

    why do you need a tb, its not like your downloading 4k porn, and why do you need anything higher than 1050-1080 gpu

  • Nathan Norman
    Nathan Norman 2 күн мурун

    Need more videos with Anthony. Throws things together to prove the numbers.

  • Luke Peters
    Luke Peters 2 күн мурун

    IF you went with a lower budget, on an AMD ryzen 5 2400g then you could maybe get rid of the GPU. Your move Intel. Budget @550 - 600 AMD got you cornered.

  • yepsii
    yepsii 2 күн мурун

    that resin table got me wet ngl

  • just a random guy who likes stuff
    just a random guy who likes stuff 2 күн мурун

    LINUS CHANGED THE TITLE!

  • Sergio Madureira
    Sergio Madureira 2 күн мурун

    In a couple of months we’ll be able to build a 9900k/gtx1080 level gaming pc for that price going full amd with the new ryzen3000 series and navi